Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/25/2003 02:53 PM House FIN

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HOUSE BILL NO. 192                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act designating the Department  of Natural Resources                                                                   
     as  lead  agency  for  resource   development  projects;                                                                   
     making  conforming  amendments;  and  providing  for  an                                                                   
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TOM  IRWIN,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF  NATURAL  RESOURCES                                                                   
testified in  support of the  bill and provided  information.                                                                   
He  stressed  his  support  of  the  Governor's  priority  to                                                                   
develop natural  resources.  He highlighted the  intention of                                                                   
the legislation  to lead and coordinate the  operations only,                                                                   
and not  to take authority  away from the other  Departments.                                                                   
He read from prepared testimony as follows:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        The purpose of  this bill is  to help facilitate  and                                                                   
        expedite resource  development in  Alaska. This  bill                                                                   
        would specifically  provide the  Commissioner of  the                                                                   
        Department  of   Natural  Resources  with   statutory                                                                   
        authority  under   AS   38.05.020(b)   to  lead   and                                                                   
        coordinate  all  matters  relating   to  the  state's                                                                   
        review  and  authorization  of  resource  development                                                                   
        projects.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        As the  state  focuses  more  on development  of  its                                                                   
        resources the  department  needs  clear and  explicit                                                                   
        authority  to  carry   out  its  role  to   lead  and                                                                   
        coordinate the  state's review  and authorization  of                                                                   
        resource  development   projects.  Even   though  the                                                                   
        department has  and will  continue to  serve as  lead                                                                   
        for mining  projects, the  department's authority  to                                                                   
        serve as lead  agency for other resource  development                                                                   
        projects is not as  explicit. This bill  will provide                                                                   
        the necessary clarity  as the state moves  forward in                                                                   
        the development of its resources.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        The  primary  responsibility  in  the  Department  of                                                                   
        Natural  Resources  for  carrying   out  lead  agency                                                                   
        coordination functions will  rest with the  Office of                                                                   
        Project Management  and Permitting.  This new  Office                                                                   
        within   the   department   includes    the   project                                                                   
        management  function  and  the  Alaska  Coastal  Zone                                                                   
        Management program.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        Large  resource  development  projects,   because  of                                                                   
        their scope  and  complexity,  are  more  efficiently                                                                   
        reviewed  and  authorized  using  a  lead  agency  to                                                                   
        coordinate and  integrate,  to the  extent  possible,                                                                   
        the various  permitting  processes  of  the  agencies                                                                   
        involved using  the  project team  approach.  Smaller                                                                   
        projects, normally less  complex and requiring  fewer                                                                   
        permits, may  benefit from  lead agency  coordination                                                                   
        for review but may  not require the  establishment of                                                                   
        a project team.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        Resource  development  projects  utilizing  the  lead                                                                   
        coordinating agency and project review  team approach                                                                   
        will  go through  a  three  phase  process.  Phase  I                                                                   
        focuses  on   evaluating   a  proposed   project   to                                                                   
        determine if  the lead agency  project team  approach                                                                   
        would best  address the review  and permitting  needs                                                                   
        of the project. Phase II results  in establishment of                                                                   
        the  project  team,  development   of  an  integrated                                                                   
        agency review  schedule,  delineation of  information                                                                   
        requirements,  and   completion   of  any   necessary                                                                   
        agreements amongst the agencies and  applicant. Phase                                                                   
        III is the  actual project  review and  authorization                                                                   
        process,  including  public  participation,  tailored                                                                   
        specifically to the  requirements for  permitting the                                                                   
        project.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        Additionally, we view  this bill as assisting  in our                                                                   
        efforts   to    streamline    project   review    and                                                                   
        authorization. This bill will help to facilitate:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        The state's  ability  to  pull together  agencies  to                                                                   
        address project specific concerns,  and to facilitate                                                                   
        and expedite the review and authorization  process; a                                                                   
        more cohesive  working  relationship  amongst  agency                                                                   
        representatives;    better    communication,     more                                                                   
        efficient  permitting,  consolidated  public  process                                                                   
        where possible,  and  to  assist in  integrating  the                                                                   
        state's process with that of the federal agencies.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        Speaking   from   personal   experience,   the   laws                                                                   
        governing  resource  development  have  proliferated,                                                                   
        and  there are  now  more  agencies  than  ever  with                                                                   
        permitting  authority   over   resource   development                                                                   
        projects. Resource development should  not be held up                                                                   
        by the sheer complexity  of government. This  bill is                                                                   
        intended to help alleviate that problem  as this bill                                                                   
        would  authorize  DNR  to  lead  and  coordinate  the                                                                   
        permitting   activities   of   all    agencies   with                                                                   
        jurisdiction over the project.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Irwin noted that in effect all operations would                                                                    
be brought into one office to facilitate coordination.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ERNESTA BALLARD, COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL                                                                      
CONSERVATION expressed support of the bill.  She referred to                                                                    
her prepared statement:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Governor  Murkowski is committed  to enhancing  Alaska's                                                                   
     economy  through  resource  development. He  is  equally                                                                   
     committed to  protecting Alaska's environment.  A strong                                                                   
     economy  will  generate  the revenue  base  to  continue                                                                   
     funding   our  important   regulatory  and   development                                                                   
     projects.  Without a  strong economy  we cannot  hope to                                                                   
     have a strong government.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     I have been before this committee  to speak on behalf of                                                                   
     other governor's  bills and  have opened with  that same                                                                   
     message.   It  is  a   fundamental  principle   to  this                                                                   
     administration and bears repeating.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     In  any undertaking,  be it  your home,  your office,  a                                                                   
     small  business  or a  large complex  organization  like                                                                   
     state   government    - critical    path   planning   is                                                                   
     fundamental; with  out it time is wasted.  This bill, HB
     192,  is about critical  path planning.  It directs  the                                                                   
     Department of  Natural Resources to lead  and coordinate                                                                   
     resource   development    projects.   It   directs   the                                                                   
     permitting    agencies   to    sequence   actions    and                                                                   
     requirements   so  time  lines   are  met.   Armed  with                                                                   
     sequenced  and prioritized project  plans we  can insure                                                                   
     that   each   of   our   own   department's   permitting                                                                   
     requirements are met without delay                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The genesis  of this bill  goes back several  years. The                                                                   
     resource   agencies   came    together   to   coordinate                                                                   
     permitting   issues  on   large   mine  projects.   They                                                                   
     discussed, planned and communicated,  and found that the                                                                   
     permitting  process became  more efficient.  It was  not                                                                   
     only  more  efficient  for  the agencies;  it  was  more                                                                   
     productive   for  industry.   Why?   Because,  we,   the                                                                   
     permitting    agencies,   identified   our    regulatory                                                                   
     requirements  in  a  systematic   and  sequenced  manner                                                                   
     insuring that the most critical  needs and timelines for                                                                   
     the project were established.  Because we, DNR, Fish and                                                                   
     Game  and   DEC  had  identified  and   articulated  the                                                                   
     critical points  and times in our  regulatory processes,                                                                   
     industry  understood its  responsibilities and  provided                                                                   
     the   needed  information   on  time.  Additionally   by                                                                   
     evaluating  its regulatory  responsibilities as  a whole                                                                   
     industry can gain what synergies are possible.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Critical  path planning  provides  efficiencies for  the                                                                   
     departments  as well.  We  hold joint  meetings. We  use                                                                   
     staff   resources    efficiently.   Industry    provides                                                                   
     information  we can all  use because  we agreed,  at the                                                                   
     outset, on data standards acceptable to all.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The  state's citizens  benefit  from  this approach.  In                                                                   
     rural  communities   it  is  more  difficult   to  track                                                                   
     separate  agency processes so  when agencies  hold joint                                                                   
     public meetings concerned  citizens are given the entire                                                                   
     regulatory  picture. With  out  critical path  planning,                                                                   
     public participation happens  based in the public notice                                                                   
     requirement of  individual permits, which  can be months                                                                   
     even years apart depending on the project.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     I have  also talked  with many of  you about how  we are                                                                   
     reviewing our regulations and statutes to ensure they                                                                      
     are meaningful  and not  a victim  of mission  creep. As                                                                   
     part  of  that process,  we  are  deleting  46.35 Permit                                                                   
     Coordination and Extension.  This statute was enacted in                                                                   
     1977.  That same  year the  legislature established  the                                                                   
     Coastal  Management  Program,  which became  the  permit                                                                   
     coordinator.  AS  46.35 has  become  a  relict.  However                                                                   
     there  is one small  section of  AS 46.35 that  is being                                                                   
     relocated.  Sections  2 and  3  of  this bill  move  the                                                                   
     Department of Environmental  Conservation's authority to                                                                   
     use our appeals process to other sections of law.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The DEC  process is easier to  use and well laid  out in                                                                   
     understandable regulations.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     It is also important to understand  what HB 192 does not                                                                   
     do.  HB   192  bill  does  not  change   the  protective                                                                   
     standards  that the state  has developed and  fine-tuned                                                                   
     over the last decade. It  does not change the Department                                                                   
     of      Environmental     Conservation's      permitting                                                                   
     requirements, its regulatory  discretion, enforcement or                                                                   
     appeal process.  This bill simply insures  critical path                                                                   
     planning.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Ballard summarized that  the bill provided  the                                                                   
opportunity  to be more  organized.  She  noted that,  as the                                                                   
permitting  agency, DEC  benefited  from  identifying at  the                                                                   
outset key data  requirements needed to produce  permits in a                                                                   
timely fashion.   She stressed that having  clear legislative                                                                   
language  provides the  agency with  a clear  mandate in  the                                                                   
permitting project.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ballard  emphasized  the  importance  of  critical  path                                                                   
planning.  By moving  permits and  the project  forward in  a                                                                   
coordinated way,  the department  is able to effectively  use                                                                   
resources and to present to the  public the entire project as                                                                   
it  moves  forward.   Otherwise,  the  public may  only  view                                                                   
portions of  the projects and  may not be able  to understand                                                                   
its impact on  their community.  She noted  her commitment to                                                                   
both resource  development and resource conservation  and her                                                                   
belief  that  they  are  compatible.    She  also  noted  her                                                                   
determination to identify instances of "mission creep".                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ballard  explained  that,  resulting from  a  review  of                                                                   
statutes and  in conjunction with  HB 192, the  Department is                                                                   
deleting AS 46.35, "permit coordination  and extension".  She                                                                   
stated  that  the  statute  had never  been  used  since  its                                                                   
enactment  in  1977,  the  same  year  that  the  legislature                                                                   
established the Coastal Management  Program, which became the                                                                   
permit  coordinator.   She  noted that  they  had proposed  a                                                                   
relocation of  a small segment of  the statute:  Section  2 &                                                                   
3,  which  would move  DEC's  authority  to use  the  appeals                                                                   
process to other sections of law.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ballard  expressed  her  enthusiasm  for  this  type  of                                                                   
coordination, and  reiterated the importance  of coordinating                                                                   
the permitting process  to provide a clear path  for resource                                                                   
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft  asked if AS  46.35 had ever  been used.                                                                   
Ms. Ballard confirmed that it  had never been used. She noted                                                                   
that they  retained the  authority to  use their own  appeals                                                                   
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CAMERON LEONARDS,  ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL,  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                   
LAW,  in response  to  a  question by  Representative  Croft,                                                                   
explained  that  two  provisions  of 46.35  would  remain  in                                                                   
statute following  the proposed bill,  one of which  would be                                                                   
relocated  from  46.35.090  (e).     The  relocated  language                                                                   
clarifies  that procedures  to  review  DEC permit  decisions                                                                   
need not conform  to the Administrative Procedure  Act (APA).                                                                   
He  explained  that sections  2  and  3  of the  bill  simply                                                                   
transplanted  this  existing  provision  to two  chapters  of                                                                   
Title 46 that govern DEC permitting decisions.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft  asked which provisions did  not need to                                                                   
conform  to  APA  and  why.    Mr.  Leonard  noted  that  the                                                                   
procedures  governing  adjudication   hearings  were  already                                                                   
covered comprehensively  in DEC  regulations and  by existing                                                                   
law were  not subject  to the  APA.   He confirmed  that this                                                                   
paralleled APA procedures.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster   MOVED  to  report  HB   192  out  of                                                                   
Committee with the accompanying  fiscal note.  There being NO                                                                   
OBJECTION it was so ordered.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB  192  was REPORTED  out  of  Committee  with a  "do  pass"                                                                   
recommendation   and  two  zero   fiscal  notes:     #1  from                                                                   
Department  of Natural  Resources and  #2 from Department  of                                                                   
Environmental Conservation.                                                                                                     

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